Dropsafe

by Alec Muffett

This story confuses me; are Google soon to to drop XMPP (and/or GTalk) entirely?

…if – IF – so, then it will be very very bad for the future of private communication:

Talk, for example, was built to help enterprise users communicate better, Singhal says. “The notion of creating something that’s social and that’s always available wasn’t the same charter as we set out with when we created Talk.” With Hangouts, Singhal says Google had to make the difficult decision to drop the very “open” XMPP standard that it helped pioneer.

via Exclusive: Inside Hangouts, Google’s big fix for its messaging mess | The Verge.

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5 responses to “This story confuses me; are Google soon to to drop XMPP (and/or GTalk) entirely?”

  1. Lloyd Watkin (@lloydwatkin)

    Not dropping it entirely, this old protocol designed before the advent of cloud computing is the technology behind their new advanced ‘cloud messaging’ system.

    In hangouts you’ll be able to do c2s but no s2s and some other restrictions. Google talk being merged into hangouts.

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  2. Richard Johnson

    Bottom line for protecting communicants under repressive regimes, like those Google warns when they’re under attack: How do we do real OTR (not Google’s fake OTR) with them under the new Google regime?

    Also, restricting server to server seems at odds with ‘cloudy’ computing push and desires for reliability. Hmm.

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  3. Bernard

    Can you explain c2s and s2s? I’m not familiar with the meaning
    Or give a link to an explanation?

    Thanks.

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    1. alecm

      client/server and server/server.

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      1. Bernard

        D’oh. Yes of course. I didn’t get the use of the digit 2!

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