Popewatch

Can someone who is significantly older than me please remind me: I seem to remember Karol Wojtyla being a complete surprise to the media when he was made[1] pope; admittedy his becoming Pope JP2 was very shortly after the death of JP1 who in turn shocked shocked the media (and possibly himself) by dying only a month or so after the previous one, Paul VI.

All that said, though: if I am correct in remembering Karol Wojtyla as a complete outsider to the race for the Papacy, I shall ignore the next week or so’s chat about “front runners” and just wait until the next one comes along…


[1] What’s the proper verb to create a pope? I believe you don’t crown them, nor knight, dub, or any of the other royal-related verbs; you could take the noun-to-verb solution and “pope” someone (leading to the possibility of the past tense usage, eg: “He got poped in ’78”) – but I am sure there has to be a more elegant term than “made” …

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10 responses to “Popewatch”

  1. bartb
    re: Popewatch

    About the terminology: appointed would seem to be the correct word (says http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/help.html ).

    About following lists of “papabile”: don’t bother.

    The front runners used to not be the ones elected: they tended to be named because they have a strong following, but to elect a pope a three-quarter majority was needed which usually meant that also those cardinals who opposed that “papabile” would need to vote in his favour. So someone who had no strong opponents tended to get appointed after it became clear none of the favourites had enough following to get 75% of the votes.

    Things may end up being quite different this time, though, as a simple majority becomes sufficient if no-one is elected after a certain time/votings (which is part of reforms made to the election process a few years back).

  2. Jander
    re: Popewatch

    Pontificated ?

  3. David Magda
    re: Popewatch

    Another valid term could be “elected”. The cardinals vote, so whomever wins the vote is elected to the position.

  4. Stephen Usher
    re: Popewatch

    JP-II was a surprise to everyone at the time. However, it has since come to light that he was the candidate the two factions agreed that they disliked the least. ie. He was the last one left after all the others had been discounted from the list of possibles.

    I remember that they took ages to decide.

  5. alecm
    Elected re: Popewatch

    Ah, but their election is meant to be guided by a higher authority towards His wishes and greater glory.

    So, if it’s an election like that, surely it should be run in Florida? 😎

  6. Eccentric Henk
    re: Popewatch

    Isn’t a pope installed?

  7. alecm
    re: Popewatch

    00:58:10 buster:alecm $ which pope

    no pope in /usr/local/bin /Developer/Tools /usr/local/nmh/bin /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/X11R6/bin /etc .

    …apparently not. 😎

  8. Jon Ellis
    re: Popewatch

    My money is on anoint:

    http http://www.answers.com/anoint

  9. alecm
    re: Popewatch

    You could well have it there, although with holy oil that’s one I’ve a;ways worried about being dangerously close to “lubricate”.

    “To lubricate a new Pope” – sounds good to me. 😎

  10. rac
    re: Popewatch

    well, an Anglican Bishop or Archbish or ‘installed’ and ‘consecrated’ among other things…. they have several words to cover different aspects of their ministry (Cathedral, Diocese, state etc) so I suspect the same is true of Cardinals and Popes, although in their case, annointed will be one of them I should think!

    By the way, I wonder if you can get a bullet proof pope-mobile on e-bay yet, since it’s no longer in use? Or has it been simply moth-balled for use next time someone tries to assasinate the pope!?

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