Under the new system, users upload official documents once through an app. In return, they get a token to show platforms like YouTube or Snapchat.
This is how ID-based access to the internet begins in Europe…
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“The EU is now testing a digital age verification system that ties internet access to your government ID”
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9 responses to ““The EU is now testing a digital age verification system that ties internet access to your government ID””
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@alecm This isn’t necessarily a bad thing when implemented properly. We already have this in the Nordics, as do a bunch of other countries. We have an app managed by the government (called MitID here in Denmark). Just the other day I bought whiskey online and had to verify my age. I used MitID which shared only a boolean with the website: that yes I’m over 18. No other information. It’s basically like OAuth scopes.
We use the same app to login to government services and it works great.-
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@hans5524 @alecm But is it a bad example?
There are multiple options for payment, so delegating age verification would mean they'd all have to support it. Using MitID here also verifies that it's actually you using it too and it's not a stolen or borrowed identity, or in your example, payment card.
The government is the "source of truth" on this info so why not get an answer directly from them in a privacy-aware way?-
@mroach @alecm The original post suggests that age verification is a step towards identification. I agree that the Danish system might disprove that. a similar system will be available EU wide from 2027. It seems safe, for now. I just pointed out that there are other sources of identification for both the government, your ISP and the website.
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I’ve just written a little blog post for you.
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ps: Mike: that’s a really interesting perspective you’ve got there, that the government is the “source of truth” for your birthday. If you were correct that would suggest they have the power to change it.
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https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/papers/age-verify.pdf
All these people who haven’t been reading about the anonymisation of Tor for the past 15 years, correlation and timing attacks, information leaks… You trust the government marketing material for some reason.
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@alecm The positive thing about the EUDI wallets is that age verification without identification is possible, which is better than uploading a copy of your id or using a centralised login facility. The downside is that it is very easy to give up your identity by also sharing extra data like your name or verified email address.
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