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Back on USENET we lived & loved expansion to Fido & other networks, as it increased community … but now this is a “techbro” perspective which ignores “consent”.
by Alec Muffett
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Back on USENET we lived & loved expansion to Fido & other networks, as it increased community … but now this is a “techbro” perspective which ignores “consent”.
@alecm isn’t this exactly why you chose to post to “public”? I want everyone to be able to see the content I post this way.The only thing I’d be not okay with is giving another platform content to give them some sort of legitimacy or value, they should make it clear in their UI that this is not happening on their platform.
@jonas @alecm “They should” — oh of course they will. Just like google groups made it clear that their content was pulled from usenet…
@alecm I left Twitter so no one uses me being there as their validation to stay there. Now it's just a bunch of idiots circle-jerking around Elon.I don't want bluesky or some other random network to pretend I'm participating, they can show my posts, that's what the open web is made for, but they should make it clear that it's not bluesky where I am at.
@alecm I remember that quite differently, it was not as clear-cut as you make it sound. Usenet of course was the ad-hoc thing it always was and there were no hard rules, but I'm pretty sure fidonet (and others) were quite strict about gatewaying.
The primary thing about consent now and here for me is this: I consent to my posts being visible on the fediverse, that does not imply I consent to them being on some billionaire nazi's platform to make that more valuable.
@alecm And thinking about this some more, I’m pretty sure I remember some heavy flame wars around gateways from/to usenet that did not work correctly… @isotopp might remember?
Oh yes, all such gateways are generally horrific and clunky man in the middle hacks which fragment the namespaces and cause many downstream negative effects – look at NAT for instance. But that does not mean that they are wrong or are not going to exist.
Re: your consent, as another technologist on Mastodon put it: is the software meant to pick up on your “vibes” in order to know to do this?
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